10k

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:28:50 PM
iraq ??? stable ???.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!...don't y'all forget that there is a third bush out there waiting in line to be your next president if nobama leaves a country worth governing in 4 years...
[Edited by: 10k at 7/3/2009 12:29:13 AM EST]
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dannyshouse

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:27:31 PM
Chinese oil barons?
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acknot

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:21:16 PM
Its not that simple. Iraq does not want to pay for royalties. They only want to pay for infrastructure. Everbody bid low on all oil fields except for one, the partnership that includes Sinopec. Would you invest your money with a small return and large risk? These oil companies are not fools. They are smarter than any government.
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philthethrill

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:19:37 PM
i'm afraid you're right - Buddy2264
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CruisinLinda

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:17:29 PM
So start a war to gain power in the Middle East and have access to what is probably the second largest deposit of sweet crude in the world. When the dust settles, the demise of the Sunnis and Saddam in Iraq strengthened Iran's hand, and the US gets little oil from Iraq. The insurgents keep blowing up the pipes, and the US is spending its disposable income for two wars, over a trillion dollars. The multi-national oil companies and wealthy China will buy the oil and, more important, the means of production.
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playtimeCLE

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:17:20 PM
Let china sent there troops into get suicide bombed.
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:15:57 PM
They like the rest will sell their oil to the hightest bidder. I would hope then they can start paying their own bills. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
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TommyTraveler

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:12:53 PM
Yes sir. The US fights a 6 year war there and China will take over.
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TBONE3

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:12:23 PM
Watch ut for China.
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ChEPhD

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:11:07 PM
it points to the stupidity of the obama climate bill - a bill where taxpayers pays thousands more each year to reduce emissions in our country while China and India with populations many many times more than the US will continue to use more and more oil, and burn more coal to industrialize their nations.
just because the US reduces emissions doesn't mean other nations will
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PioneerUrban

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:10:17 PM
Pretty soon China will have the fingers in everything.
Do all of us a favor and buy American.
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:08:45 PM
China owns the U.S.A. now anyway
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rippinusoff

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 11:04:51 PM
Yes..."made in China" is as American as Apple Pie...the pie just tastes really cheap and bad...
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Ken2OD

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:57:40 PM
USA gets screwed again!
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Jarod13

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:55:57 PM
ChiKid -- in time, I believe you may be right on with this prediction. America has been bought and paid for by the Chinese, so it isn't a surprise that they'll come out the winners in this Iraqi oil fields "chess game". American lives were lost just so that the Chinese could come in and reap the spoils -- what a pity that America has become the butt of jokes around the world. I better run, not walk, to sign up for Rosetta Stone's Chinese language course!
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FrisperCat

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:52:10 PM
and i have to say ... .No, it wasn't
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OilBGone

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:47:49 PM
So you have to ask yourself this question - was this really all worth it?
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ChiKid

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:47:35 PM
The old golden rule, "He who has the gold sets the rules." We sold our selves to the Chinese to stabilize our economy. Now we are paying for it.
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:43:45 PM
Perhaps we can get a bail-out from China in appreciation of preserving the Iraqi oil fields for their consumption.
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billsandi

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:32:03 PM
I'm appaled when anyone would call a war where we lost 4,000 people "silly."
Not to mention what we lost on 9/11, and until now at least, have avoided another attack on US soil.
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GPRS08

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:31:04 PM
...and here comes China!
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jmuse

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:24:31 PM
Who couldn't see this coming?
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DosEquis26

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:22:07 PM
I thought the whole idea of our starting this silly war and suffering over 4,000 dead Americans was that WE would get the oil fields???
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hauler43

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 10:19:10 PM
The Americans did all the work, now the Chinese want to come in for a free ride. That ain't right.
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TomT2Lee

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:59:03 PM
If it were not for the fact that Iraq isn't stabilizing and that American soldiers died going into Iraq, this could be funny.
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humblepie

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:57:44 PM
like the movie of the same name " there will be blood "
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cincidap

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:57:09 PM
I suppose China earned it by lending us the money (by buying worthless government bonds) to undertake the war in the first place. They basically own us, why not Iraq too?
As for "watching" China, I've been doing so since the Clinton years. Unfortunately, those with power and a venue were unwilling to listen.
[Edited by: cincidap at 7/2/2009 10:58:22 PM EST]
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phae

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:51:34 PM
unbelievable!
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arnerator

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:51:23 PM
We do the dirty work, then they come in
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eights

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:44:32 PM
wow
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:39:29 PM
No blood for oil for them. They just waited and paid for it.
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SWITCHMAN

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:37:27 PM
When did China send their troops to help in Iraq, did any of their men and women die their in a foreign country, and lets face it it was for control of OIL. I am appalled at our leadership that would let this happen. If I was in our military I would refuse to deploy in that region.
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mdegug

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:27:08 PM
send troops
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bigmaninarig

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:24:48 PM
Those are ours...you go get your own!
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mach1lives

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:20:40 PM
go china
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jjjleblanc

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:19:52 PM
Capitalism at work.
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purvismike

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:16:19 PM
Bye bye shoeffly
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kruk

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London
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:09:32 PM
look like China is sending message who is capable to run the show
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fuelconscious

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:07:16 PM
China undercuts the world in prices. So i am sure we will get a bargain of deal on oil from the chinese.
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grandamgt1

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:04:50 PM
hmmm, wonder if they'll cut us a deal for doin their dirty work for em the last few years.
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dhnbBUG

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:54:20 PM
China is positioning itself to be more important than the United States.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:50:17 PM
We better be watching Russia and now China very closely. I look for China to be the big dog before very long. Don't take your eyes off of them.
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GaryG7

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:50:04 PM
Why don't we make Iraq the 51st state? That way China won't get first dibs on the oil, we will.
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